Is Thailand as cheap as enthusiastic downshifters write about it?

Well, here I am again in Thailand, and I read my ownpast articles written once, as well as comments to them. Recently they wrote to me here that the prices quoted are outdated, and they say it takes much more money to live in Thailand. Moreover, such debates arise with a certain periodicity, starting from the fact that I lie, ending with the fact that I am an ascetic :) Actually, this is why this article appeared, because not everyone is paying attention to my reservations in posts.

The content of the article

The main causes of disputes

At the time of this writing, I am in ChiangMay, and the last dispute arose just about the prices in this city. What did I see when I arrived? Yes, everything is the same as it was a year and a half ago, when we wintered here. therefore the cost of our wintering in Thailand still relevant if you keep the same imageof life. And at the moment I was already in three different places in Thailand, and I do not see any fundamental changes in prices, at least for housing, food and transport. And these are the most important components of the budget.

How was the papaya in Chiang Mai at 25 baht per kg, and remained

How was the papaya in Chiang Mai at 25 baht per kg, and remained

How worthy decent guesta 400-500 baht, and cost

How worthy decent guesta 400-500 baht, and cost

First class Bangkok - Chiang Mai still costs 650 baht

First class Bangkok - Chiang Mai still costs 650 baht

3 reasons

I would single out 3 reasons for disputes cheap / expensive to live in Thailand:

  • People are so different, and their needs and interests are so different that it’s impossible to even one size fits all.
  • It is important whether a person wants to spend time to find something cheaper, or not.
  • It is equally important whether a person comes for a short period, or is going to live a long time, as well as how much he is going to move around the country.

Perhaps there are other items, but they do not come to my head :) Since I have already been among those whocomes for a long time, and those who came just to travel a little, and also see who and what is spending money in Thailand, I understand perfectly why Thailand is cheap for some, expensive for others, and why the answer is how much does it cost to live in Thailand everyone has their own.

Different needs / tastes / interests

I hope it’s no secret that peoplelifestyles can be quite different, though they equally like Thailand. And none of them is from this the best or worst person. In Thailand, in the same way there are expensive shops, cafes, cars and yachts, here you can also spend a lot of money. And in the same way you can spend a little. Roughly speaking, if a person is used to living on a grand scale, he will do it in any country.

Yes, of course, something is cheaper here than inthe same Moscow, but something more expensive! Therefore, total savings may not happen. Just do not forget that some people live here with a higher standard of living than at home, which means they do not save again. For example, instead of a one-room apartment for 25 thousand rubles (the average price in Moscow), you can rent a great house in Thailand for the same amount. The level has risen, spending the same, no savings. And you can still pay extra and rent a villa, some appetite comes in the process, if not shikanut, if you want. Or, for example, because of the cheapness of a taxi after Moscow, you can only ride on it here, and to spend more in total than it would have done in the Homeland.

So, who is used to something. In the same Bangkok, you can travel by bus and subway, and you can by taxi and tuk-tuk. One will be very cheap, the other will not. In this item also bring cheap Thai cuisine. Someone she bothers or is generally unacceptable, but someone eats and he does not need anything else.

You can find cheaper, only you need desire

In fact, not everyone has the desireoptimize your expenses and look for more economical options for life. I traveled a little with my fellow traveler, and saw through him that a person was not particularly used to looking for something. Maybe laziness, maybe something else. This is not important, we are all different and this is normal. I sometimes want to look like a quest straight, there is a certain task and you need to find it a solution. Although, of course, not always such a desire appears. And the whole question comes down, do you want to search and spend time on it. I wrote a post about housing prices in Thailandwhy bloggers find housing cheaper several times compared to the rest.

I will give an example. I arrived at Hua Hin and within half an hour I ran around a few gestakhus around a radius of 500 meters and found a suitable one for 800 baht per day, it was too late and not long searches. That is, I spent half an hour of my time and instead of hotels for 1000-1200 baht, which were right next to the place where the “ass fell”, I found something that suits me better. Moreover, the next day I did not stop at this and found already for 600 baht per day. And I assure you, this is not the limit. A cursory analysis of housing (half a day on a bike) showed that 600 baht is the normal price for a twin room. And if I needed a double with one bed, then 500 baht is the average price per season. And if you can live without air conditioning, then you can also lower the price, up to 300-350 baht.

Just want to say that the hotel for 600 baht,in which I stayed, no worse than those that I saw for 800-1200 baht, at least for me. And not always, if more expensive, then better, many people forget about it.

Hua Hin Hotel Room for 600 baht

Hua Hin Hotel Room for 600 baht

Budget bungalow on Koh Chang for 300 baht

Budget bungalow on Koh Chang for 300 baht

Another example. I left the hotel to eat, and across the street there was a cafe with prices around 150 baht per plate. You can fall here, if you are too lazy to walk. But sometimes I like to take a walk, and walked through the streets, and after about 10 minutes I found another cafe, where I already gave 40 baht for my Padi with vegetables. And this is not a macaroni, please note, but almost the same cafe, the interior will only be simpler.

Pad Thai in a street Thai cafe Chiang Mai for 30 baht

Pad Thai in a street Thai cafe Chiang Mai for 30 baht

Pad Thai on Koh Chang for 50 baht, in a nearby cafe, but on the shore - already 100 baht

Pad Thai on Chang island for 50 baht, and in the next cafe, but on the shore - already 100 baht

It turns out that if you search, then under certain conditions you can always find, in Thailand this principle works exactly, you spend only time. I already wrote on a similar topic about money / time / comfort ratio traveling, as you can operate with these parameters. But, if your time is more expensive to you, then of course, the search for cheaper alternatives (especially in the short term) loses meaning.

In the beginning, I thought that green tea is expensive, but it turned out that there are 35 baht each.

In the beginning, I thought that green tea is expensive, but it turned out that there are 35 baht each.

Short ride or long stay

If you are traveling and constantly moving withI can’t hide it, you can quickly get tired of the constant search for cheaper housing or food. I am already on the road for several weeks and I am not always eager to search, so I can stop at the first available spot, or take a taxi to avoid walking. But all these adversities bypass those who live long in one place. In this case, Thailand is truly a testing ground for experimentation.

Finding a cafe once good and inexpensive, you canthen go into it all the time. You can cook at home, and you can stock up on the market in bulk. Everything is simplified with housing, as the price per month is much lower than with daily rent, especially if you immediately agree for six months or a year. 3 times the price may vary! The same situation with a motorbike, you can take it for a month, it is much cheaper than daily or, if you ride a tuk-tuk.

For a longsteer the cost is 4000 per month, for a traveler 13,500 baht

For a longsteer the cost is 4000 per month, for a traveler 13,500 baht

For a longsteer the cost is 3,500 per month, for a traveler 6,000 baht

For a longsteer the cost is 3,500 per month, for a traveler 6,000 baht

House agenda and samlowry for just 16 thousand baht. Daily such a cost will be a fortune

House agenda and samlowry for just 16 thousand baht. Daily such a cost will be a fortune

House agenda and samlowry for just 16 thousand baht. Daily such a cost will be a fortune

House agenda and samlowry for just 16 thousand baht. Daily such a cost will be a fortune

In principle, this fact is that longsteers (longstay) Thailand is much cheaper than visiting for a couple of weeks is known. Everything rests on the time, how much it is, and on what to spend it, that is, partially return to paragraph 2 of this article. And so for short trips to Tai, it’s quite possible to use this layout - How much to take money to Thailand on vacation.

Well, do not forget that if a person arrivedfor rest for 1-2 weeks, and even for a resort, then its budget was initially much higher than who lives here. After all, it’s not for nothing that a man plowed for a whole year, so that later he could rest to the full extent. Here and lobsters every day for dinner, and shopping, and excursions through the day, and other kind of entertainment. This is a completely different format of stay in Thailand.

What we have in the end

I don't want to teach anyone how totravel, how to live, and so on. Based on personal experience, I'm just trying to show what options can be. As a rule, if you are ready to spend more time preparing for a trip or searching for something on the spot, as well as streamline and control your expenses, then everything is real, and inexpensive wintering, and just budget trip to Thailand. In general, we can say that 20-40 thousand bahtenough for two to live in Thailand. But, if you live in a villa right on the seashore, eat only European food and travel by taxi, the amount will be completely different. There are also a bunch of intermediate options.

To me personally, Ty gives ample opportunity tosaving without harming oneself in anything much larger than Moscow. In a village or a small Russian town, I would also live more economically, but less comfortable at the same time. That is, in Thailand, I usually spend as much or even less than at home, and my standard of living increases significantly. With the same budget, I do not cook food, but I eat in a cafe, I don’t clean my apartment, I live in a rented accommodation and I can change it in mood, I have personal transport, I can go somewhere interesting, and so on. Yes, yes, there are a number of reservations that I am ready to eat Thai food every day, I don’t drink or smoke, I’m quite modest in terms of housing and stuff, there are many nuances and they each have their own. I always try to write about this, and behind all my budgets there are explanations for what I received. Someone is suitable, someone believes that it is not comfortable. Everything suits me and this is important :)

P.S. Whenever you read the budgets of travelers and those living in Thailand, always learn about a person’s lifestyle, you can have a completely different ratio of spending.

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