Rent a bike on Tao and Phangan - passport as a deposit and divorce

When you rent a bike in Thailand, beCareful when choosing a rental office, among them there are fraudsters. The scheme is this: they give you a bike on the security of a passport, and when you come back to return the vehicle, there is always some small scratch (or not small), often in hard-to-reach and not immediately visible places. For example, on the bottom. And for this damage, the distributor begins to demand a large amount, threatening not to return your passport in case of non-payment. Most often, this type of fraud is found on the islands of Tao and Phangan. Immediately make a reservation, in other places it is not a problem to find a bike rental without a passport pledge.

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Rent a bike on Phangan and Tao

Bike rental and passport fraud

I have already told in some detail how to rent a bike in thailandread. There, and about the driver's license, and about what kind of scooter to choose, and about renting without a passport, and about how to drive a bike. In general, all the nuances. We presume that you already know all this, including that leaving a passport is a bad idea.

The most problematic rentals are found on the islands of Koh Phangan and Koh Tao. It is there that it is very difficult to find an office that will not require a passport as a deposit. Therefore, on these islands should be removed:

- The very case when you need to take a bike fromRussian-speaking, living on the island and donating bikes, the easiest way to negotiate with them and usually they do not breed. If you quit, then just replace it. Search in the Russian-speaking groups just as well, usually ads are posted there.
- In a proven Thai box office. But as practice shows, today it is proven, and tomorrow is gone.
- Whoever rents a house, they don’t have to ask for a passport, you have already left them a deposit for housing

Tenants explain their demand to touristsleave a passport as a pledge in that they allegedly may, if anything, escape from the island without paying, and this is such a security measure. In fact, if you are asked for a passport, this is a clear signal to be alerted - it is likely that they will try to dissolve you for money. Although, nevertheless, divorces are found most often on Pangane and Tao, in other places I did not come across this, even leaving a passport as a pledge.

And, if we talk specifically about Phangan and Tao, thenit's not even a passport. And the fact that when passing a bike, they will inspect it from head to toe and in most cases will try to roll you a fine for scratches. If you left your passport, you will extort money, if you left a cash deposit, you will return only part of it, minus scratches. Not so long ago, this was a little easier on Koh Pangan, made a fixed price for renting 250 baht / day (everywhere banners hang on the island) and wrote the price in the contract, which will be taken for each damaged part (price is twice as expensive from the store). Moreover, they even take a scratch, and not in the event of the failure of this part. Type put things in order on the island, yeah. On the one hand, it’s good that they’re not taking the price from the ceiling (they used to lop 5-10 thousand baht), but nevertheless, there are still divorces and it is unpleasant to pay even smaller amounts for other people's scratches. Read below my personal experience.

Rent on Phangan fixed 250 baht / day

Rent on Phangan fixed 250 baht / day

Price in the contract for each damaged part

Price in the contract for each damaged part

How I was bred on Phangan

When handing over the bike, the Thai technically immediately beganlooking in the right places and telling me what would happen. Although I did not fall once and generally drive carefully. The maximum that could be, so it is in the parking lot someone scratched. But I think this is all a clean divorce, he rubbed it painfully professionally. 1700 baht on top for 4 scratches on parts that have not really lost their functionality.

I repent, I set foot off not VIDEO, but PHOTO, and evenNot all the sites took off, as it turned out. Apparently, I simply did not pay attention to something, relaxed too. However, in this case, the photo was still useless to do, I had 2 scratches well and clearly visible in the photos, but the owner did not believe the photos, they say, I made them when I had already scratched everything. Moreover, there is a date for the files, but not in any, waved his hands and did not behave like a Buddhist at all.

So guys only VIDEO on Phangan and noa photo. Moreover, the continuous and every corner, and that it was the owner himself, at least at some point of shooting and still speak the date with a voice standing next to him. Or, if the photo is taken, then the owner’s hand should be in the photo or it should be completely, so that it doesn’t come out later. It is not surprising that during the photographing, when I took the bike, Thais from rentals all hid right away.

By the way, they came up with a very cool thing -crack on the plastic part. When you take a photo, and indeed you look with your eyes, it seems that this is just a strip. But in fact, it is a crack, you can push and see the rift. Fuck, then prove that it is not yours, given that in the photo it looks exactly like a strip.

Such rentals, judging by the reviews, is full onPhangan, but nevertheless I will write at least about this one. It is called Kate Motorbike for rent (and in Google Kate Jeep & Bike). If you walk from the main pier in Tong Sale, then immediately after 7-eleven, across the road from it (here's the point). There are two rolled nearby, in the next Adam Bigbike is also not worth taking, also bred.

Rent a bike on Phangan, where exactly bred

Rent a bike on Phangan, where exactly bred

This kind aunt is playing the role of a good cop.

This kind aunt is playing the role of a good cop.

And her husband is an evil cop

And her husband is an evil cop

Proven rentals on Phangan

Below is a list of annuities with positivereviews. However, it is always necessary to take into account that everything in life changes and where everything was good with others, someone might not be lucky with the bike owner or the situation.

  • on Haad Rin you can take a bike from the Indians, rent Om Ganesh
  • hire in Tong Sala (it is a large port on Phangan), directly opposite the road to the port, next to a roundabout
  • rental in Tong Sala. From the pier to which the ferry arrives, go straight, cross the road, there will be a 7-Eleven store. We walk a few meters directly behind the Seven, there will be “For rent” bikes next to the cafe on the same side as the Seven.
  • rental in Chaloklum area. Called AUTAIN. The owner is Thai, his name is Auten (Uten). But as a deposit, he still asks for a passport
  • TON rolling office in Tong Sala. Located opposite the Top Charoen Optical building, not far from a roundabout.

Proven offices on Tao

  • 7-Eleven store has a row of mopeds on the left of the central pier
  • in the center of the beach Me Had
  • Island Travel rental - next to the pier, up the road next to Cafe del Sol
  • on the beaches of Sairee Beach and Chalok

What to do to return the passport

What can be done if you have given a passport and are demanding money from you for various minor damages on a bike?

Self repair

Just in case you price for the most popular parts and work.

The first thing people try to do is replaceself damaged part. Some get it done much cheaper. But on the small islands, everyone knows each other, so this option is quite difficult to crank. Also often on rented bikes there are rental stickers almost with rental phones, or even marked parts (they are practiced on Phangan). Here with such a bike you will not be accepted in most services, they will refuse to repair it, they will say go to the distributor. But on the same Phangan there are several services that are slaughtered for this and will be ready to repair, you will have to look for them. I know exactly two: in Chaloklam (if you go from Tong Saly, then from 7-11 to the left 100 meters) and in Ban Tae after the arch (if you go from Tong Saly), there is also Bandon Hospital nearby.

Service on Phangan (Ban Tai) where a rented bike can be repaired

Police

The second option is to contact the police. Again, in small towns, all the locals will be for each other, so most likely the police will only spread their hands. In fact, in most cases, the police will insist that you decide this question yourself and negotiate with the owner, so if you have no connections or you don’t know how to give bribes, then don’t expect help from the police.

To bargain

Third - try to bargain. With some skill, you can significantly bring down the required payable amount. Go to the service, make a calculation, and do not forget to smile a little more. It is impossible to bargain without a smile, and even more so to raise your voice and swing your rights, you will not achieve anything.

As a final argument we can saythat you do not need a passport, turn around and start to leave. Also a good option, it might work. In the end, you can really fly away from Thailand on a return certificate, without a passport (such as lost).

How not to do

Much worse if you take actionscheme “an eye for an eye” and decide to teach the scammers to teach them yourself - without giving the bike a chance to leave the island, in any way damage the bike (pour sugar into the gas tank) or even figure out how to spoil the rental owner. Such methods are fraught with further trouble in the first place for you. They can solder the same theft. It is better to always act only within the law.

The most effective and correct way

This is what the immigration officer says.Alex Mf in the discussion of one of the cases of fraud on the island of Tao (the office is called Euro Shop) about the retention of passports in unreliable rents and other institutions, departure by certificate without a passport or a legitimate attempt to return it.

Just give the bike and do not pay for the "scratches". The owner of that office can not do anything. If he has your passport, and he does not give it away, contact the consulate of the Russian Federation, then his jamb is clear, the police should withdraw your passport from him and return it to you. Everything.

For example, took 4 bikes? Fine! 4 applications addressed to the Russian consul in Bangkok, el. mail and tel. is on the website of the Embassy. The subject of the message is the illegal retention of passports of citizens of the Russian Federation, the inability to return to Russia due to the retention of passports, the fraud put on stream, the inaction of local authorities when contacting them. When you hold passports consulate responds quickly. Now there is a direct hotline of the Embassy of the Russian Federation with the Police Headquarters of Thailand, which can be done with it.

To get START (return certificate) you needhave a police report on the loss of a passport. That is, a statement to the police must be made anyway. And I must make this statement correctly, that is, as it is, point out the illegal retention of a passport and note that the Russian consulate is up to date. Therefore, we must first declare to the consulate about what I wrote above, only 4 points: illegal holding of passports, the inability to return to the Russian Federation for this reason, fraud and extortion of money, negligence and inaction of the local police. Specify all 4 items required. And the next day, go to the police to make a statement and take a report. If this is not done, then you can get a divorce and a threat, this is a common thing.

That is, as stated above, to return the bikes as they are and ... then the fact of holding the passports appears, and you are in white. From this position it will act correctly and within the law.

Not yet in the topic of rental, in the topic of an accident. According to the law, the parties to the accident can agree amicably pre-trial, and the police officer must record this in a protocol of agreement of the parties, which will indicate the amount of compensation to the injured party. At the same time, thank the police officer is considered good form :)

P.S. Be careful not to fall into the hands of scammers!

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