Is Thailand a land of romantics or a tropical paradise without prospects? (interview)

Talked to the outstanding man, callingyourself Sam Lowry. At least this is what I get when reading his blog posts. Max (Sam Lowry) is interested in self-development, rehabilitation, organization of information. He lives with his family for more than 5 years in Thailand. Such a long time allows you to know the country very well from the inside, so I did not miss the chance to find out what expats live, what they earn, what a person’s future plans can have if citizenship in this country is not realistic.

Max, I know that you and your wife have been living for 5 yearsnorthern Thailand that you had a daughter born there. I once read that you traveled south, but then you returned north anyway. Wow, there are a lot of questions, but first tell me, have you moved there permanently or is this a temporary phenomenon? After all, it is difficult to obtain citizenship, but permanent visa-wound bored ...

In general, we started with Pattaya, lived there for 2 years,until finally tired of living at the resort. Then it was already north. Then we went to explore new places, Phangan really liked it, but it is very inconvenient to get to it. For example, Krabi is physically farther from the center, but you reach it faster because it is on the mainland. In addition, we were on the Phangan in the low season, sometimes the beaches were completely empty. It is not clear how it is now. Perhaps not at all as atmospheric and natural as it seemed to us.

Is it really in Thailand? Here you are in the search engines spun the blog and other sites, and you do it well. Perhaps you have already felt the black side of search engine optimization, when everything can collapse at any moment. So with Thailand, all the same. The visa regime is soft and it can be “optimized”, but all the statuses that can be obtained do not give a foreigner special rights.

Add here the Thai love of political games andwars. I heard a curious fact from historical friends: in the 20th century in Thailand, politicians were only engaged in digging under each other and making revolutions. Each government begins to invent something pozakovyristee. If a leader is inept, he starts with bans.

The story of the overthrow of the Prime Minister is well known.Thaksin Cinavara in 2006 (by the way, we moved to Thailand for this next revolution). Immediately alter the rules for issuing investment visas. Previously, as it was: invested 3 million baht - live quietly. 3 million is the average price of a simple home or condo. Now you need to invest 10 million, which cuts off most people. Let's imagine how 7 years ago you or I, having sold an apartment, a car, borrowed money, bought condos for 3 million, and a revolution takes place a year later.

By the way, Thaksin came up with a cool program.Thailand Elite, where for 1 million baht you could buy a special card, and get not only VIP-service at airports, hospitals, spas and immigration offices, but also the opportunity to live and not bathe about visas. Gradually, and then tightened the nuts. That privilege was removed, then the number of family members passing on your card hacked, and now the program is completely closed. The money seems to be returned, but people definitely have a sediment.

Well, a status close to civilian (permanent residence) is very difficult to get here.

So asking about plans to live in Tae is a thankless job. Answer: maybe tomorrow they will ask everyone from here, maybe in a heap of years, or maybe we will get tired of ourselves.

Yes, at least we lived half a year in Thailand,but also managed to understand that the nuts tighten. That is why we are going to live here, and do not position it as a complete move. The semi-legal situation is somehow not very close to us, and there are no other options besides studying or sighting for ordinary people.

Max, and did not think about other countries of the SoutheastAsia? For example, in Cambodia, with visas is much simpler, a business visa for a year without having to do business, or the Philippines, where you can leave the country for about two years? Or did Thailand like it so much that they are ready to put up with visa questions for the time being?

Unfortunately, Tai is such a stupid,impossible, nasty place, which is hard to leave. In Cambodia, the standard of living is lower. Everything that foreigners in Taia love so much, all these hypermarkets, food courts, machoonies, good roads, national parks, the ubiquitous Internet, cheap luxury homes - all this is used by the Thais themselves. And Cambodia, Laos, Burma are much poorer countries, the gap with the local population will be very large. Not yet.

About the Philippines do not know anything, I heardonly that crime is worse there than in Tae and that vegetarian culture is not developed there. Indonesia (Bali), Malaysia - quite livable country with its drawbacks. But in Tae, you understand, it is already easy for us. For 5 years, all the corners are hacked. Any problem is solved pretty quickly.
You say "semi-legal position." What is it all about? In whose head is it semi-legal? I live here and now and for now everything is fine. Go and live in a banana Cambodia just for the sake of this very "position" on pieces of paper?
In my opinion, such reverence for how the state treats you, we got from Soviet times. "Without paper you are a bug."

If you move to another country, it’s only when you enjoy the country itself. Well, or when all available ways of living will be covered with a copper basin.

Semi-legal position - I meant everything thatdoes not apply to citizenship. Cambodia, the Philippines, too, "semi-legal" in this regard. Of course, you have to live here and now, but many people want to settle down enough to build their own house, to equip it, to have a garden. We do not refer ourselves to such people for the time being, but we do not exclude that we will want to have something of our own someday, and not rented. Although, of course, the laws in the world are now such that no one really has his own "own".

Anyway. Better tell me how you earned your living before Ty and what now? Everyone I met there, either bloggers and owners of any sites, or programmers ...

You, by the way, got to the very point about home and garden :) I cherish the idea of ​​making a settlement: take off the land, build simple houses and a common place for food, work and meetings. Who wants, can be engaged in farming. The problem is in the absence of other “sick” like-minded people. The second problem is the choice of location, the mind is torn between Phangan, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai and Pai.

And I was engaged and engaged in the cultivation of sites with search traffic, on which the dating site advertising hangs and brings money. Sites English-speaking.

Good idea with the settlement. Maybe you even know about eco-settlements in Russia, and so we started something like this with a friend, but somehow I was drawn to warm countries, so I left the project. True, the difference is that “our own” is quite different from the usual “farming” on the leased land, so it’s not surprising that you have few like-minded people. It seems to me that farmers do not particularly need a “community” around, they are on their own. Therefore, in your case, maybe you should not focus on the earth? Although no one bothers to have a small piece of it just for the personal garden. In addition, not everyone wants to invest in construction, knowing that tomorrow they can already ask from here. By the way, as an option, you can simply rent a small cottage village with 10 houses and live like this together.

And there is no accent on the ground. I am not a farmer and I don’t like a garden. But the same bananas and papayas to plant, if possible - why not? The emphasis here is on cohauzing, living in nature (ideally, not on bald land, but among trees, in a forest or jungle). Not everyone will need to invest in houses, but some kind of backbone from 2-3 families who want to divide the initial expenses is needed.

By renting cottages in the village negative attitude. These are most likely to be concrete boxes with fully concreted earth around. They will stand in the suburbs, with all the accompanying nishtyak in the form of neighbors from all sides, barking dwarf little dogs circulating cars to and fro. I want to build myself something cool. On Koh Phangan live guys, call themselves Phangan Earhtworks. They took the land for 7 years, they have already built 3 houses, a yoga studio, a dome for meditations in the dark. Everything looks very, very cool. And the fact that the earth is briefly removed - they are not annoying. In Chiang Rai, our friend built an amusement park on the ground, which, in words, was leased to him by the village elder for a small fee. This, by the way, is a good illustration of our conversation about rights. Who wants - he takes and makes, based on reality. The rest are looking for excuses.

While we live in a concrete house

While we live in an ordinary concrete house

While we live in a concrete house

Yes, I perfectly understand you about concrete boxes and nishtyakov :) Recently I came across a website about guys whobought 10 hectares in Latin America and build a house in the jungle. Something similar to your thoughts, but with a tie to the ground. I suppose that many people would like to live in a similar way with friends. Honestly, I don't know what stops people. Although, perhaps, if we talk about us, we are still in the process of forming our earnings, which means we cannot settle down in this way anywhere. Maybe others are the same.

You mentioned the creation of sites for traffic. Comfortable profession for travel. But tell me, how did you get the idea to make a Disassembly Point that was not related to your activities? Even the words are difficult to choose what it is, and it seems to be a journey, and it seems not. Better to explain.

I think everyone who lives in Tae helpedseveral acquaintances and friends with the move here. Friends and we helped. And I'm a big fan of talking about mass culture, about everyday life. Yes, and accumulated what to tell in 5 years. In this case, tourism and travel in pure form, I do not like. And at some point the thought came: to make an event where people can learn the necessary information about life in the country. Well, at the same time to see its different parts, work out something interesting. I invited a friend who has been a guide for the countries of Southeast Asia for more than two years, we have developed a route and an entertainment part, I have prepared a theoretical one. So this program appeared, at the beginning of the year we had the first release, on April 29 we are arranging the second one. By the way, I invite all readers of Life-trip.ru to the program, I will give you an additional discount.

“Do something interesting,” is it, for example?

Yoga on the balls, climbing, climbing several mountains through the temples and waterfalls, massage lessons, cycling, tea tasting. Cool jobs related to the theoretical part.

And the last question, which is my veryinterested in. Tell me, how is it possible for a real person to come to live in Thailand like this, without having remote work and significant funds? Something you can think of on the spot, for example, do some small business?

Of course, typical work in Tae is work intourist industry. From dubious professions, such as a “assistant” guide (by the way, over the past two years, this profession has completely lost its attractiveness, before it was possible to earn money, and now it’s just a meaningless risk) to quite legal ones, for example, you can work as a manager in travel companies, as a translator in a variety of companies.

For those who want to find a job in the specialty, II would advise you to monitor bulletin boards (for example, this one), and also to post job search ads there yourself. You can get a job in Bangkok, Chiang Mai, in industrial areas. You can teach English almost everywhere (in some schools they take non-carriers). You can do your favorite hobbies and work as an instructor in yoga, dance, diving.

Finally, you can try to open a business here. This, of course, is not for everyone, although almost everyone who arrives in Thailand immediately begins to think in a standard way: open a restaurant, massage parlor, etc. Many close quickly.

By the way, among Europeans is quite commonsuch a scheme: save money, quit, live a year traveling or just in one country, such as Thailand. Why not try it? And there, maybe some ideas of work and business will appear. You just need to want ...

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Maxim and I could talk for a long time, but II understand perfectly well that I cannot ask all the questions at once, so you can write your question in the comments, I'm sure Max will be able to answer you. Well, of course, if you are going to live in Thailand, I advise you to pay attention to its point of disassembly, yet not every day is an opportunity to get 5 years of life experience in Tae in compressed form in a couple of weeks.

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