Where to go instead of Thailand, an alternative?

Probably everyone already knows about tightening the rulesentry into Thailand. More precisely, these rules have always been (or part of them), just no one followed them. So, the border wounds were canceled (you can get only 1 stamp at the airport), and when passing the border it is desirable to have 20 thousand baht per person (or 40 thousand per family). It is also said that the rule 90/180 will be observed, that is, it is possible to stay in the country only 90 days in half a year, but so far there is no real evidence of this. It may well be that they may also prohibit issuing visas in neighboring states of Tay (such rumors also go), and entry will be possible only by plane, and not by land. But now it is possible to extend the 30-day stamp for another 30 days in an immigrant for 1,900 baht, and not as it used to be for just 7 days.

It is too early to talk about how everything will be (I will later correct my articles on visas), but this is not particularly relevant for secure wintering men. Can do two in Moscow or somewhere else, and quietly hold wintering in Thailand, having left once a week in Malaysia or Bali to activate the second krat.

However, the question of where else you can go for a long time from six months, already arises. Let's speculate together, it is very interesting who sees what alternatives for themselves instead of Thailand.

UPDATE. All visa information from discussions has been added to this post for convenience. And all the pros and cons read in the comments below. Remember, these are just opinions of different people, and your impression of a particular country / city may be completely different.

Where to run from the new rules?

Where to run from the new rules?

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Where to go without much preparation

Thailand was good (and maybe still goodfurther) by the fact that it was possible to live there for years, getting one after one ordinary tourist visa (one-time or two-fold), or even living on a 30-day stamp, riding on a border wound. In addition to Thailand, there are other countries with simplified visa entry.

  • Cambodia. Convenient visa regime, the visa can be purchased online or on site. And not only a short-term tourist visa is easily bought, but a business visa for a year for 300 bucks. You can not do business, it does not matter. All who come here for a long time use business visas.
  • Vietnam. Visa is done for 1,3,6 months is quite inexpensive and very simple via the Internet, and then also renewed on-site at a travel agency.
  • Philippines. According to longsters, you can live on a visa upon arrival and then renew it for up to 36 months without leaving the country. All renewals will take place at the local immigration office.
  • Bali. Visa upon arrival for 1 month, or if in advance then for 2 months. Border wounds come out expensive because of flights, so everyone gets a social visa for six months, which can then be extended in local offices. Also, people find loopholes through the purchase of work visas. All that is true for Bali in terms of visas is also true for other islands of Indonesia, the country is one, only the services of intermediaries are less developed, and somewhere they do not exist at all.
  • Dominican Republic. Visa for 60 days for 25 bucks, you live as long as you want, when you check out a fine - who writes 25 bucks, who - 100. Then the fine does not affect the new entries.
  • Montenegro Border wounds every 30 days, but they are not completely legal, at any moment they can hold up at the border or even completely cover this shop.
  • Cyprus. Visa is obtained via the Internet for 1 day, but you can live on it only 90 days in six months, which does not pull for a long stay.
  • European countries. With a Schengen tourist visa, you can only stay here 90 days every six months.</ Li>

Where to go through the residence permit

Still, a residence permit is akin to emigration, and not to wintering ortravel, because the cost of obtaining a residence permit alone can be comparable to the cost of wintering in Tae and, in an amicable way, it is not at all an alternative to Thailand. Moreover, a residence permit in many cases may not give or not extend, suspecting of financial insolvency, unwillingness to do real business or something else. By the way, in Thailand, too, you can be confused with obtaining a work visa and organizing a small business, there would be a desire. Still, Thailand is the tropics, and those countries where a residence permit is usually done, the climate is colder.

Asia

  • Malaysia. Entry into the country is visa-free for 30 days, but I am not sure that the border wound could be many times, especially since it was possible to extend the stamps, but now it seems there is no longer. As a rule, those who come here for a long time, travel on a work visa, on a student visa (150 thousand rubles a year), open offshore, or use the program “Malaysia - My Second Home”. For the latter, you need to put 300,000 ringit (3 million rubles) into the account, of which 240 thousand can be spent in a year to buy a house, study children or medicine.
  • Turkey. On a normal tourist visa, a maximum of 90 days every six months, you need an income statement of 500 bucks / month. A residence permit can be obtained after the purchase of real estate or the opening of a real business (short-term residence permit for a period of 1 year, renewable annually) and a number of bureaucratic procedures. There is a tax on real estate. Upon receipt of a residence permit, you must provide an extract from the bank at the rate of 300 bucks / month. Long-term residence permit is given after 8 years of residence, subject to a legal source of income. Also, a residence permit, or ikamet, can be obtained for a tourist reason, and not just real estate / marriage / work / study. And for half a year. And then extend for another year. And so up to 4 times. The only thing you need is a lot of money and time to collect documents. For the money per family (2 adults + 2 rubles), the cost of ikamet itself was $ 1000 for half a year. But the next extension will be about $ 400 at all. A Russian immediately all year issued. But the costs should also take into account notarized translations and the certification of any certificates, and the mandatory local medical insurance.
  • Israel. I was not interested in a tourist trip, only in emigration. If there are Jewish roots (enough grandmothers / grandfathers), you can get citizenship by machine when you arrive at the airport. At moving still the grant will give for half a year and language free courses will provide. From Russian citizenship is not necessary to give up.

Europe

  • Montenegro In addition to border wounds, there are other ways. You can get here by getting a job (fictitiously, it is cheaper than opening a company), and through opening a company. The cost of opening a company is 300 euros, for obtaining a residence permit 150 euros, the capital of the company is minimal, the maintenance of a two-person company is about 270 euros per month (taxes + accountant). Intermediary services for opening a company additionally about 300 euros, but you can do everything yourself.
  • Bulgaria. There is a scheme for obtaining a residence permit through the opening of a representative office of Russian LLC in Bulgaria. That is, an LLC is opened in Russia (free of charge or for 6-9 thousand from intermediaries, then, in the absence of activity and workers, you do not need to pay anything), and a representative office of this LLC is opened in Bulgaria. The opening of a turnkey office costs 700-1000 euros.
  • Slovenia. Schengen It is also possible to open a company, through an intermediary it costs 4,200 euros, the share capital + investments in fixed assets are 10,000 or 22,500 euros to choose from. In the first case, the term of registration is 8 months, in the second 2 months. The maintenance of the company goes 400-500 euros / month or more.
  • Latvia. Schengen It is one of the countries where a residence permit could be obtained for the purchase of an apartment. The minimum cost of housing is 75 thousand euros in the regions and 150 thousand euros in Riga. But the shop was almost closed, raising the price of entry and entering quotas.
  • Lithuania. Schengen It is considered by many countries with the easiest and cheapest way to obtain a residence permit through the opening of the IP or company. In the case of an IP, it must be registered for each adult. The cost of opening an IP is about 300 euros, 3,500 euros should be deposited to the account (or simply the translated certificate from your bank is shown), plus you need a rental contract and an agreement. IP content from 30 euro / month. Rumor has it that the procedures will be complicated, and the content in the form of 30 euros for zero does not roll. To tear off a firm and keep it more expensive, but also cheaper than in other countries.
  • Czech. Schengen Through the opening of the company has become much more difficult to get than before. An entrepreneurial visa is given with difficulty and only for a real business, that is, in the Czech Republic it is impossible to make a null firm. In the Czech forums, people write that if they get long visas, it is not the first time.
  • Spain. Schengen There are various schemes for moving here, but I personally did not see the light for myself. One of the options is a study visa, followed by a job search, but there are no guarantees that everything will work out in the end. Or legalized settled when you need to live illegally for 2-3 years. The simplest option is a non-lucrative visa without the right to work. To do this, you need to have a property (unofficial requirement) and confirm income from abroad of 25 thousand euros per year for 1 person, 32 thousand for 2, and 38 thousand for a family of 3 people.
  • Cyprus. I already wrote about the visa tour above, but here you can also make a residence permit. We need a long-term contract for renting an apartment (and better have our own real estate), put in the account 25 thousand euros for a family of 3 people (10 thousand for each adult and 5 thousand for a child), and more is better. Rights will not work. Failures in a residence permit are also not uncommon.

America

  • Chile. They come here on a rentier visa or on an entrepreneur visa. The first option is the easiest, you just need to have an income from renting an apartment in Russia, from stocks, or even from something. Income must be higher than the minimum for each family member, that is, somewhere around $ 500 per person.
  • Ecuador. You can get a residence permit on an investment visa, putting 25 thousand dollars on the account, or buy an apartment, or invest in a business. Three years later - citizenship, if a child is born - after two.
  • Mexico. Entry for Russians and Ukrainians for six months on an electronic visa, free of charge. According to the official website, you can receive an electronic visa as many times as you need. But there is such a moment, a visa can be given not for 180 days, but for a shorter period. According to reviews, basically, they give it for half a year. And one more nuance - the electronic visa is given to those who arrive by plane, that is, every six months you have to fly somewhere.
  • Canada. In addition to a tourist visa, there are two popular relocation schemes. The first is professional migration. There are official lists of occupations that are required in Canada. If you currently have experience in such a profession, you can apply. They make decisions based on their scores: education, work experience, level of knowledge of English, family composition, and so on. On arrival, they do not help in finding employment, in most cases they have to learn anew. The second scheme, in my opinion, more convenient is a student visa. You come, you study (you need to know English or French well), you get a diploma and then you get a job. While studying, you can also work, but a small number of hours. The main costs are the cost of education (from 10-15 thousand IU per year) and accommodation, because you cannot earn much during your studies.

P.S. The information is given not claiming to be true, but rather for reflection, that is, there may be inaccuracies and errors, since, naturally, I did not have the experience of living and obtaining a residence permit in each of these countries. Everything is collected from the personal experience of other people, in particular from the comments on this article and feedback from friends. Someday maybe we will get a residence permit in one of the countries, and then we will cover in detail all the issues on the blog from personal experience.

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